Ath。ThatGodgovernsallthings,andthatchanceandopportunityco-operatewithhiminthegovernmentofhumanaffairs。Thereis,however,athirdandlessextremeview,thatartshouldbetherealso;
forIshouldsaythatinastormtheremustsurelybeagreatadvantageinhavingtheaidofthepilot’sart。Youwouldagree?
Cle。Yes。
Ath。Anddoesnotalikeprincipleapplytolegislationaswellastootherthings:evensupposingalltheconditionstobefavourablewhichareneededforthehappinessofthestate,yetthetruelegislatormustfromtimetotimeappearonthescene?
Cle。Mosttrue。
Ath。Ineachcasetheartistwouldbeabletoprayrightlyforcertainconditions,andiftheseweregrantedbyfortune,hewouldthenonlyrequiretoexercisehisart?
Cle。Certainly。
Ath。Andalltheotherartistsjustnowmentioned,iftheywerebiddentoofferupeachtheirspecialprayer,woulddoso?
Cle。Ofcourse。
Ath。Andthelegislatorwoulddolikewise?
Cle。Ibelievethathewould。
Ath。“Come,legislator,“wewillsaytohim;“whataretheconditionswhichyourequireinastatebeforeyoucanorganizeit?“
Howoughthetoanswerthisquestion?ShallIgivehisanswer?
Cle。Yes。
Ath。Hewillsay-“Givemeastatewhichisgovernedbyatyrant,andletthetyrantbeyoungandhaveagoodmemory;lethimbequickatlearning,andofacourageousandnoblenature;lethimhavethatqualitywhich,asIsaidbefore,istheinseparablecompanionofalltheotherpartsofvirtue,ifthereistobeanygoodinthem。“
Cle。Isuppose,Megillus,thatthiscompanionvirtueofwhichtheStrangerspeaks,mustbetemperance?
Ath。Yes,Cleinias,temperanceinthevulgarsense;notthatwhichintheforcedandexaggeratedlanguageofsomephilosophersiscalledprudence,butthatwhichisthenaturalgiftofchildrenandanimals,ofwhomsomelivecontinentlyandothersincontinently,butwhenisolated,wasaswesaid,hardlyworthreckoninginthecatalogueofgoods。Ithinkthatyoumustunderstandmymeaning。
Cle。Certainly。
Ath。Thenourtyrantmusthavethisaswellastheotherqualities,ifthestateistoacquireinthebestmannerandintheshortesttimetheformofgovernmentwhichismostconducivetohappiness;forthereneitherisnoreverwillbeabetterorspeedierwayofestablishingapolitythanbyatyranny。
Cle。Bywhatpossiblearguments,Stranger,cananymanpersuadehimselfofsuchamonstrousdoctrine?
Ath。Thereissurelynodifficultyinseeing,Cleinias,whatisinaccordancewiththeorderofnature?
Cle。Youwouldassume,asyousay,atyrantwhowasyoung,temperate,quickatlearning,havingagoodmemory,courageous,ofanoblenature?
Ath。Yes;andyoumustaddfortunate;andhisgoodfortunemustbethatheisthecontemporaryofagreatlegislator,andthatsomehappychancebringsthemtogether。Whenthishasbeenaccomplished,Godhasdoneallthatheeverdoesforastatewhichhedesirestobeeminentlyprosperous;Hehasdonesecondbestforastateinwhichtherearetwosuchrulers,andthirdbestforastateinwhichtherearethree。Thedifficultyincreaseswiththeincrease,anddiminisheswiththediminutionofthenumber。
Cle。Youmeantosay,Isuppose,thatthebestgovernmentisproducedfromatyranny,andoriginatesinagoodlawgiverandanorderlytyrant,andthatthechangefromsuchatyrannyintoaperfectformofgovernmenttakesplacemosteasily;lesseasilywhenfromanoligarchy;and,inthethirddegree,fromademocracy:isnotthatyourmeaning?
Ath。Notso;Imeanrathertosaythatthechangeisbestmadeoutofatyranny;andsecondly,outofamonarchy;andthirdly,outofsomesortofdemocracy:fourth,inthecapacityforimprovement,comesoligarchy,whichhasthegreatestdifficultyinadmittingofsuchachange,becausethegovernmentisinthehandsofanumberofpotentates。Iamsupposingthatthelegislatorisbynatureofthetruesort,andthathisstrengthisunitedwiththatofthechiefmenofthestate;andwhentherulingelementisnumericallysmall,andatthesametimeverystrong,asinatyranny,therethechangeislikelytobeeasiestandmostrapid。
Cle。How?Idonotunderstand。
Ath。AndyetIhaverepeatedwhatIamsayingagoodmanytimes;butIsupposethatyouhaveneverseenacitywhichisunderatyranny?
Cle。No,andIcannotsaythatIhaveanygreatdesiretoseeone。
Ath。Andyet,wherethereisatyranny,youmightcertainlyseethatofwhichIamnowspeaking。
Cle。Whatdoyoumean?
Ath。Imeanthatyoumightseehow,withouttroubleandinnoverylongperiodoftime,thetyrant,ifhewishes,canchangethemannersofastate:hehasonlytogointhedirectionofvirtueorofvice,whicheverheprefers,hehimselfindicatingbyhisexamplethelinesofconduct,praisingandrewardingsomeactionsandreprovingothers,anddegradingthosewhodisobey。
Cle。Buthowcanweimaginethatthecitizensingeneralwillatoncefollowtheexamplesettothem;andhowcanhehavethispowerbothofpersuadingandofcompellingthem?
Ath。Letnoone,myfriends,persuadeusthatthereisanyquickerandeasierwayinwhichstateschangetheirlawsthanwhentherulerslead:suchchangesneverhave,noreverwill,cometopassinanyotherway。Therealimpossibilityordifficultyisofanothersort,andisrarelysurmountedinthecourseofages;butwhenonceitissurmounted,tenthousandorratherallblessingsfollow。
Cle。Ofwhatareyouspeaking?
Ath。Thedifficultyistofindthedivineloveoftemperateandjustinstitutionsexistinginanypowerfulformsofgovernment,whetherinamonarchyoroligarchyofwealthorofbirth。YoumightaswellhopetoreproducethecharacterofNestor,whoissaidtohaveexcelledallmeninthepowerofspeech,andyetmoreinhistemperance。This,however,accordingtothetradition,wasinthetimesofTroy;inourowndaysthereisnothingofthesort;butifsuchanoneeitherhasorevershallcomeintobeing,orisnowamongus,blessedisheandblessedaretheywhohearthewisewordsthatflowfromhislips。Andthismaybesaidofpoweringeneral:
Whenthesupremepowerinmancoincideswiththegreatestwisdomandtemperance,thenthebestlawsandthebestconstitutioncomeintobeing;butinnootherway。AndletwhatIhavebeensayingberegardedasakindofsacredlegendororacle,andletthisbeourproofthat,inonepointofview,theremaybeadifficultyforacitytohavegoodlaws,butthatthereisanotherpointofviewinwhichnothingcanbeeasierorsoonereffected,grantingoursupposition。
Cle。Howdoyoumean?
Ath。Letustrytoamuseourselves,oldboysasweare,bymouldinginwordsthelawswhicharesuitabletoyourstate。
Cle。Letusproceedwithoutdelay。
Ath。ThenletusinvokeGodatthesettlementofourstate;mayhehearandbepropitioustous,andcomeandsetinordertheStateandthelaws!
Cle。Mayhecome!
Ath。Butwhatformofpolityarewegoingtogivethecity?
Cle。Telluswhatyoumeanalittlemoreclearly。Doyoumeansomeformofdemocracy,oroligarchy,oraristocracy,ormonarchy?Forwecannotsupposethatyouwouldincludetyranny。
Ath。Whichofyouwillfirsttellmetowhichoftheseclasseshisowngovernmentistobereferred?
Megillus。OughtItoanswerfirst,sinceIamtheelder?
Cle。Perhapsyoushould。
Meg。Andyet,Stranger,IperceivethatIcannotsay,withoutmorethought,whatIshouldcallthegovernmentofLacedaemon,foritseemstometobelikeatyranny-thepowerofourEphorsismarvellouslytyrannical;andsometimesitappearstometobeofallcitiesthemostdemocratical;andwhocanreasonablydenythatitisanaristocracy?Wehavealsoamonarchywhichisheldforlife,andissaidbyallmankind,andnotbyourselvesonly,tobethemostancientofallmonarchies;and,therefore,whenaskedonasudden,IcannotpreciselysaywhichformofgovernmenttheSpartanis。
Cle。Iaminthesamedifficulty,Megillus;forIdonotfeelconfidentthatthepolityofCnosusisanyofthese。
Ath。Thereasonis,myexcellentfriends,thatyoureallyhavepolities,butthestatesofwhichwewerejustnowspeakingaremerelyaggregationsofmendwellingincitieswhoarethesubjectsandservantsofapartoftheirownstate,andeachofthemisnamedafterthedominantpower;theyarenotpolitiesatall。Butifstatesaretobenamedaftertheirrulers,thetruestateoughttobecalledbythenameoftheGodwhorulesoverwisemen。
Cle。AndwhoisthisGod?
Ath。MayIstillmakeuseoffabletosomeextent,inthehopethatImaybebetterabletoansweryourquestion:shallI?
Cle。Byallmeans。
Ath。Intheprimevalworld,andalongwhilebeforethecitiescameintobeingwhosesettlementswehavedescribed,thereissaidtohavebeeninthetimeofCronosablessedruleandlife,ofwhichthebest-orderedofexistingstatesisacopy。
Cle。Itwillbeverynecessarytohearaboutthat。
Ath。Iquiteagreewithyou;andthereforeIhaveintroducedthesubject。
Cle。Mostappropriately;andsincethetaleistothepoint,youwilldowellingivingusthewholestory。
Ath。Iwilldoasyousuggest。Thereisatraditionofthehappylifeofmankindindayswhenallthingswerespontaneousandabundant。