Andthereisanotherclassofservants,whoareintellectuallyhardlyonthelevelofcompanionship;stilltheyhaveplentyofbodilystrengthforlabour,whichaccordinglytheysell,andarecalled,ifI
  donotmistake,hirelings,hirebeingthenamewhichisgiventothepriceoftheirlabour。
  True。
  Thenhirelingswillhelptomakeupourpopulation?
  Yes。
  Andnow,Adeimantus,isourStatematuredandperfected?
  Ithinkso。
  Where,then,isjustice,andwhereisinjustice,andinwhatpartoftheStatedidtheyspringup?
  Probablyinthedealingsofthesecitizenswithoneanother。
  cannotimaginethattheyaremorelikelytobefoundanywhereelse。
  Idaresaythatyouarerightinyoursuggestion,Isaid;wehadbetterthinkthematterout,andnotshrinkfromtheenquiry。
  Letusthenconsider,firstofall,whatwillbetheirwayoflife,nowthatwehavethusestablishedthem。Willtheynotproducecorn,andwine,andclothes,andshoes,andbuildhousesforthemselves?Andwhentheyarehoused,theywillwork,insummer,commonly,strippedandbarefoot,butinwintersubstantiallyclothedandshod。Theywillfeedonbarley—mealandflourofwheat,bakingandkneadingthem,makingnoblecakesandloaves;thesetheywillserveuponamatofreedsoroncleanleaves,themselvesrecliningthewhileuponbedsstrewnwithyewormyrtle。Andtheyandtheirchildrenwillfeast,drinkingofthewinewhichtheyhavemade,wearinggarlandsontheirheads,andhymningthepraisesofthegods,inhappyconversewithoneanother。Andtheywilltakecarethattheirfamiliesdonotexceedtheirmeans;havinganeyetopovertyorwar。
  SOCRATES—GLAUCON
  But,saidGlaucon,interposing,youhavenotgiventhemarelishtotheirmeal。
  True,Ireplied,Ihadforgotten;ofcoursetheymusthavearelish—salt,andolives,andcheese,andtheywillboilrootsandherbssuchascountrypeopleprepare;foradessertweshallgivethemfigs,andpeas,andbeans;andtheywillroastmyrtle—berriesandacornsatthefire,drinkinginmoderation。Andwithsuchadiettheymaybeexpectedtoliveinpeaceandhealthtoagoodoldage,andbequeathasimilarlifetotheirchildrenafterthem。
  Yes,Socrates,hesaid,andifyouwereprovidingforacityofpigs,howelsewouldyoufeedthebeasts?
  Butwhatwouldyouhave,Glaucon?Ireplied。
  Why,hesaid,youshouldgivethemtheordinaryconveniencesoflife。Peoplewhoaretobecomfortableareaccustomedtolieonsofas,anddineofftables,andtheyshouldhavesaucesandsweetsinthemodernstyle。
  Yes,Isaid,nowIunderstand:thequestionwhichyouwouldhavemeconsideris,notonlyhowaState,buthowaluxuriousStateiscreated;andpossiblythereisnoharminthis,forinsuchaStateweshallbemorelikelytoseehowjusticeandinjusticeoriginate。InmyopinionthetrueandhealthyconstitutionoftheStateistheonewhichIhavedescribed。ButifyouwishalsotoseeaStateatfeverheat,Ihavenoobjection。ForIsuspectthatmanywillnotbesatisfiedwiththesimplerwayofwayTheywillbeforaddingsofas,andtables,andotherfurniture;alsodainties,andperfumes,andincense,andcourtesans,andcakes,allthesenotofonesortonly,butineveryvariety;wemustgobeyondthenecessariesofwhichIwasatfirstspeaking,suchashouses,andclothes,andshoes:theartsofthepainterandtheembroidererwillhavetobesetinmotion,andgoldandivoryandallsortsofmaterialsmustbeprocured。
  True,hesaid。
  Thenwemustenlargeourborders;fortheoriginalhealthyStateisnolongersufficient。Nowwillthecityhavetofillandswellwithamultitudeofcallingswhicharenotrequiredbyanynaturalwant;
  suchasthewholetribeofhuntersandactors,ofwhomonelargeclasshavetodowithformsandcolours;anotherwillbethevotariesofmusic——poetsandtheirattendanttrainofrhapsodists,players,dancers,contractors;alsomakersofdiverskindsofarticles,includingwomen’sdresses。Andweshallwantmoreservants。Willnottutorsbealsoinrequest,andnurseswetanddry,tirewomenandbarbers,aswellasconfectionersandcooks;andswineherds,too,whowerenotneededandthereforehadnoplaceintheformereditionofourState,butareneedednow?Theymustnotbeforgotten:andtherewillbeanimalsofmanyotherkinds,ifpeopleeatthem。
  Certainly。
  Andlivinginthiswayweshallhavemuchgreaterneedofphysiciansthanbefore?
  Muchgreater。
  Andthecountrywhichwasenoughtosupporttheoriginalinhabitantswillbetoosmallnow,andnotenough?
  Quitetrue。
  Thenasliceofourneighbours’landwillbewantedbyusforpastureandtillage,andtheywillwantasliceofours,if,likeourselves,theyexceedthelimitofnecessity,andgivethemselvesuptotheunlimitedaccumulationofwealth?
  That,Socrates,willbeinevitable。
  Andsoweshallgotowar,Glaucon。Shallwenot?
  Mostcertainly,hereplied。
  Thenwithoutdeterminingasyetwhetherwardoesgoodorharm,thusmuchwemayaffirm,thatnowwehavediscoveredwartobederivedfromcauseswhicharealsothecausesofalmostalltheevilsinStates,privateaswellaspublic。
  Undoubtedly。
  AndourStatemustoncemoreenlarge;andthistimethewillbenothingshortofawholearmy,whichwillhavetogooutandfightwiththeinvadersforallthatwehave,aswellasforthethingsandpersonswhomweweredescribingabove。
  Why?hesaid;aretheynotcapableofdefendingthemselves?
  No,Isaid;notifwewererightintheprinciplewhichwasacknowledgedbyallofuswhenwewereframingtheState:theprinciple,asyouwillremember,wasthatonemancannotpractisemanyartswithsuccess。
  Verytrue,hesaid。
  Butisnotwaranart?
  Certainly。
  Andanartrequiringasmuchattentionasshoemaking?
  Quitetrue。
  Andtheshoemakerwasnotallowedbyustobehusbandman,oraweaver,abuilder——inorderthatwemighthaveourshoeswellmade;
  buttohimandtoeveryotherworkerwasassignedoneworkforwhichhewasbynaturefitted,andatthathewastocontinueworkingallhislifelongandatnoother;hewasnottoletopportunitiesslip,andthenhewouldbecomeagoodworkman。Nownothingcanbemoreimportantthanthattheworkofasoldiershouldbewelldone。Butiswaranartsoeasilyacquiredthatamanmaybeawarriorwhoisalsoahusbandman,orshoemaker,orotherartisan;althoughnooneintheworldwouldbeagooddiceordraughtplayerwhomerelytookupthegameasarecreation,andhadnotfromhisearliestyearsdevotedhimselftothisandnothingelse?
  Notoolswillmakeamanaskilledworkman,ormasterofdefence,norbeofanyusetohimwhohasnotlearnedhowtohandlethem,andhasneverbestowedanyattentionuponthem。Howthenwillhewhotakesupashieldorotherimplementofwarbecomeagoodfighterallinaday,whetherwithheavy—armedoranyotherkindoftroops?
  Yes,hesaid,thetoolswhichwouldteachmentheirownusewouldbebeyondprice。
  Andthehigherthedutiesoftheguardian,Isaid,themoretime,andskill,andart,andapplicationwillbeneededbyhim?
  Nodoubt,hereplied。
  Willhenotalsorequirenaturalaptitudeforhiscalling?
  Certainly。
  Thenitwillbeourdutytoselect,ifwecan,natureswhicharefittedforthetaskofguardingthecity?
  Itwill。
  Andtheselectionwillbenoeasymatter,Isaid;butwemustbebraveanddoourbest。
  Wemust。
  Isnotthenobleyouthverylikeawell—breddoginrespectofguardingandwatching?
  Whatdoyoumean?
  Imeanthatbothofthemoughttobequicktosee,andswifttoovertaketheenemywhentheyseehim;andstrongtooif,whentheyhavecaughthim,theyhavetofightwithhim。
  Allthesequalities,hereplied,willcertainlyberequiredbythem。
  Well,andyourguardianmustbebraveifheistofightwell?
  Certainly。
  Andishelikelytobebravewhohasnospirit,whetherhorseordogoranyotheranimal?Haveyouneverobservedhowinvincibleandunconquerableisspiritandhowthepresenceofitmakesthesoulofanycreaturetobeabsolutelyfearlessandindomitable?
  Ihave。
  Thennowwehaveaclearnotionofthebodilyqualitieswhicharerequiredintheguardian。
  True。
  Andalsoofthementalones;hissoulistobefullofspirit?
  Yes。
  Butarenotthesespiritednaturesapttobesavagewithoneanother,andwitheverybodyelse?
  Adifficultybynomeanseasytoovercome,hereplied。
  Whereas,Isaid,theyoughttobedangeroustotheirenemies,andgentletotheirfriends;ifnot,theywilldestroythemselveswithoutwaitingfortheirenemiestodestroythem。
  True,hesaid。
  Whatistobedonethen?Isaid;howshallwefindagentlenaturewhichhasalsoagreatspirit,fortheoneisthecontradictionoftheother?
  True。
  Hewillnotbeagoodguardianwhoiswantingineitherofthesetwoqualities;andyetthecombinationofthemappearstobeimpossible;
  andhencewemustinferthattobeagoodguardianisimpossible。
  Iamafraidthatwhatyousayistrue,hereplied。
  HerefeelingperplexedIbegantothinkoverwhathadpreceded。Myfriend,Isaid,nowonderthatweareinaperplexity;forwehavelostsightoftheimagewhichwehadbeforeus。
  Whatdoyoumean?hesaid。
  Imeantosaythattheredoexistnaturesgiftedwiththoseoppositequalities。
  Andwheredoyoufindthem?
  Manyanimals,Ireplied,furnishexamplesofthem;ourfriendthedogisaverygoodone:youknowthatwell—breddogsareperfectlygentletotheirfamiliarsandacquaintances,andthereversetostrangers。
  Yes,Iknow。
  Thenthereisnothingimpossibleoroutoftheorderofnatureinourfindingaguardianwhohasasimilarcombinationofqualities?
  Certainlynot。
  Wouldnothewhoisfittedtobeaguardian,besidesthespiritednature,needtohavethequalitiesofaphilosopher?
  Idonotapprehendyourmeaning。
  ThetraitofwhichIamspeaking,Ireplied,maybealsoseeninthedog,andisremarkableintheanimal。
  Whattrait?
  Why,adog,wheneverheseesastranger,isangry;whenanacquaintance,hewelcomeshim,althoughtheonehasneverdonehimanyharm,northeotheranygood。Didthisneverstrikeyouascurious?
  Thematterneverstruckmebefore;butIquiterecognisethetruthofyourremark。
  Andsurelythisinstinctofthedogisverycharming;——yourdogisatruephilosopher。
  Why?
  Why,becausehedistinguishesthefaceofafriendandofanenemyonlybythecriterionofknowingandnotknowing。Andmustnotananimalbealoveroflearningwhodetermineswhathelikesanddislikesbythetestofknowledgeandignorance?
  Mostassuredly。
  Andisnottheloveoflearningtheloveofwisdom,whichisphilosophy?
  Theyarethesame,hereplied。
  Andmaywenotsayconfidentlyofmanalso,thathewhoislikelytobegentletohisfriendsandacquaintances,mustbynaturebealoverofwisdomandknowledge?
  Thatwemaysafelyaffirm。
  ThenhewhoistobeareallygoodandnobleguardianoftheStatewillrequiretouniteinhimselfphilosophyandspiritandswiftnessandstrength?
  Undoubtedly。
  Thenwehavefoundthedesirednatures;andnowthatwehavefoundthem,howaretheytoberearedandeducated?Isnotthisenquirywhichmaybeexpectedtothrowlightonthegreaterenquirywhichisourfinalend——HowdojusticeandinjusticegrowupinStates?forwedonotwanteithertoomitwhatistothepointortodrawouttheargumenttoaninconvenientlength。
  SOCRATES—ADEIMANTUS
  Adeimantusthoughtthattheenquirywouldbeofgreatservicetous。
  Then,Isaid,mydearfriend,thetaskmustnotbegivenup,evenifsomewhatlong。
  Certainlynot。
  Comethen,andletuspassaleisurehourinstory—telling,andourstoryshallbetheeducationofourheroes。
  Byallmeans。
  Andwhatshallbetheireducation?Canwefindabetterthanthetraditionalsort?——andthishastwodivisions,gymnasticforthebody,andmusicforthesoul。
  True。
  Shallwebegineducationwithmusic,andgoontogymnasticafterwards?
  Byallmeans。
  Andwhenyouspeakofmusic,doyouincludeliteratureornot?
  Ido。
  Andliteraturemaybeeithertrueorfalse?
  Yes。
  Andtheyoungshouldbetrainedinbothkinds,andwebeginwiththefalse?
  Idonotunderstandyourmeaning,hesaid。
  Youknow,Isaid,thatwebeginbytellingchildrenstorieswhich,thoughnotwhollydestituteoftruth,areinthemainfictitious;
  andthesestoriesaretoldthemwhentheyarenotofanagetolearngymnastics。
  Verytrue。
  ThatwasmymeaningwhenIsaidthatwemustteachmusicbeforegymnastics。
  Quiteright,hesaid。
  Youknowalsothatthebeginningisthemostimportantpartofanywork,especiallyinthecaseofayoungandtenderthing;forthatisthetimeatwhichthecharacterisbeingformedandthedesiredimpressionismorereadilytaken。
  Quitetrue。
  Andshallwejustcarelesslyallowchildrentohearanycasualtaleswhichmaybedevisedbycasualpersons,andtoreceiveintotheirmindsideasforthemostparttheveryoppositeofthosewhichweshouldwishthemtohavewhentheyaregrownup?
  Wecannot。
  Thenthefirstthingwillbetoestablishacensorshipofthewritersoffiction,andletthecensorsreceiveanytaleoffictionwhichisgood,andrejectthebad;andwewilldesiremothersandnursestotelltheirchildrentheauthorisedonesonly。Letthemfashionthemindwithsuchtales,evenmorefondlythantheymouldthebodywiththeirhands;butmostofthosewhicharenowinusemustbediscarded。
  Ofwhattalesareyouspeaking?hesaid。
  Youmayfindamodelofthelesserinthegreater,Isaid;fortheyarenecessarilyofthesametype,andthereisthesamespiritinbothofthem。
  Verylikely,hereplied;butIdonotasyetknowwhatyouwouldtermthegreater。
  Those,Isaid,whicharenarratedbyHomerandHesiod,andtherestofthepoets,whohaveeverbeenthegreatstory—tellersofmankind。
  Butwhichstoriesdoyoumean,hesaid;andwhatfaultdoyoufindwiththem?
  Afaultwhichismostserious,Isaid;thefaultoftellingalie,and,whatismore,abadlie。
  Butwhenisthisfaultcommitted?
  Wheneveranerroneousrepresentationismadeofthenatureofgodsandheroes,——aswhenapainterpaintsaportraitnothavingtheshadowofalikenesstotheoriginal。
  Yes,hesaid,thatsortofthingiscertainlyveryblamable;butwhatarethestorieswhichyoumean?
  Firstofall,Isaid,therewasthatgreatestofalllies,inhighplaces,whichthepoettoldaboutUranus,andwhichwasabadlietoo,——ImeanwhatHesiodsaysthatUranusdid,andhowCronusretaliatedonhim。ThedoingsofCronus,andthesufferingswhichinturnhissoninflicteduponhim,eveniftheyweretrue,oughtcertainlynottobelightlytoldtoyoungandthoughtlesspersons;ifpossible,theyhadbetterbeburiedinsilence。Butifthereisanabsolutenecessityfortheirmention,achosenfewmightheartheminamystery,andtheyshouldsacrificenotacommon[Eleusinian]pig,butsomehugeandunprocurablevictim;andthenthenumberofthehearerswillbeveryfewindeed。
  Why,yes,saidhe,thosestoriesareextremelyobjectionable。
  Yes,Adeimantus,theyarestoriesnottoberepeatedinourState;
  theyoungmanshouldnotbetoldthatincommittingtheworstofcrimesheisfarfromdoinganythingoutrageous;andthatevenifhechastiseshisfatherwhendoeswrong,inwhatevermanner,hewillonlybefollowingtheexampleofthefirstandgreatestamongthegods。
  Ientirelyagreewithyou,hesaid;inmyopinionthosestoriesarequiteunfittoberepeated。
  Neither,ifwemeanourfutureguardianstoregardthehabitofquarrellingamongthemselvesasofallthingsthebasest,shouldanywordbesaidtothemofthewarsinheaven,andoftheplotsandfightingsofthegodsagainstoneanother,fortheyarenottrue。
  No,weshallnevermentionthebattlesofthegiants,orletthembeembroideredongarments;andweshallbesilentabouttheinnumerableotherquarrelsofgodsandheroeswiththeirfriendsandrelatives。Iftheywouldonlybelieveuswewouldtellthemthatquarrellingisunholy,andthatneveruptothistimehastherebeenany,quarrelbetweencitizens;thisiswhatoldmenandoldwomenshouldbeginbytellingchildren;andwhentheygrowup,thepoetsalsoshouldbetoldtocomposefortheminasimilarspirit。ButthenarrativeofHephaestusbindingHerehismother,orhowonanotheroccasionZeussenthimflyingfortakingherpartwhenshewasbeingbeaten,andallthebattlesofthegodsinHomer——thesetalesmustnotbeadmittedintoourState,whethertheyaresupposedtohaveanallegoricalmeaningornot。Forayoungpersoncannotjudgewhatisallegoricalandwhatisliteral;anythingthathereceivesintohismindatthatageislikelytobecomeindelibleandunalterable;andthereforeitismostimportantthatthetaleswhichtheyoungfirsthearshouldbemodelsofvirtuousthoughts。
  Thereyouareright,hereplied;butifanyoneaskswherearesuchmodelstobefoundandofwhattalesareyouspeaking——howshallweanswerhim?
  Isaidtohim,YouandI,Adeimantus,atthismomentarenotpoets,butfoundersofaState:nowthefoundersofaStateoughttoknowthegeneralformsinwhichpoetsshouldcasttheirtales,andthelimitswhichmustbeobservedbythem,buttomakethetalesisnottheirbusiness。
  Verytrue,hesaid;butwhataretheseformsoftheologywhichyoumean?
  Somethingofthiskind,Ireplied:——Godisalwaystoberepresentedashetrulyis,whateverbethesortofpoetry,epic,lyricortragic,inwhichtherepresentationisgiven。
  Right。
  Andishenottrulygood?andmusthenotberepresentedassuch?
  Certainly。
  Andnogoodthingishurtful?
  No,indeed。
  Andthatwhichisnothurtfulhurtsnot?
  Certainlynot。
  Andthatwhichhurtsnotdoesnoevil?
  No。
  Andcanthatwhichdoesnoevilbeacauseofevil?
  Impossible。
  Andthegoodisadvantageous?
  Yes。
  Andthereforethecauseofwell—being?
  Yes。
  Itfollowsthereforethatthegoodisnotthecauseofallthings,butofthegoodonly?
  Assuredly。
  ThenGod,ifhebegood,isnottheauthorofallthings,asthemanyassert,butheisthecauseofafewthingsonly,andnotofmostthingsthatoccurtomen。Forfewarethegoodsofhumanlife,andmanyaretheevils,andthegoodistobeattributedtoGodalone;
  oftheevilsthecausesaretobesoughtelsewhere,andnotinhim。
  Thatappearstometobemosttrue,hesaid。
  ThenwemustnotlistentoHomerortoanyotherpoetwhoisguiltyofthefollyofsayingthattwocasksLieatthethresholdofZeus,fulloflots,oneofgood,theotherofevillots,andthathetowhomZeusgivesamixtureofthetwoSometimesmeetswithevilfortune,atothertimeswithgood;
  butthathetowhomisgiventhecupofunmingledill,Himwildhungerdriveso’erthebeauteousearth。
  AndagainZeus,whoisthedispenserofgoodandeviltous。
  Andifanyoneassertsthattheviolationofoathsandtreaties,whichwasreallytheworkofPandarus,wasbroughtaboutbyAtheneandZeus,orthatthestrifeandcontentionofthegodswasinstigatedbyThemisandZeus,heshallnothaveourapproval;neitherwillweallowouryoungmentohearthewordsofAeschylus,thatGodplantsguiltamongmenwhenhedesiresutterlytodestroyahouse。
  AndifapoetwritesofthesufferingsofNiobe——thesubjectofthetragedyinwhichtheseiambicversesoccur——orofthehouseofPelops,oroftheTrojanwaroronanysimilartheme,eitherwemustnotpermithimtosaythatthesearetheworksofGod,oriftheyareofGod,hemustdevisesomeexplanationofthemsuchasweareseeking;hemustsaythatGoddidwhatwasjustandright,andtheywerethebetterforbeingpunished;butthatthosewhoarepunishedaremiserable,andthatGodistheauthoroftheirmisery——thepoetisnottobepermittedtosay;thoughhemaysaythatthewickedaremiserablebecausetheyrequiretobepunished,andarebenefitedbyreceivingpunishmentfromGod;butthatGodbeinggoodistheauthorofeviltoanyoneistobestrenuouslydenied,andnottobesaidorsungorheardinverseorprosebyanyonewhetheroldoryounginanywell—orderedcommonwealth。Suchafictionissuicidal,ruinous,impious。
  Iagreewithyou,hereplied,andamreadytogivemyassenttothelaw。
  Letthisthenbeoneofourrulesandprinciplesconcerningthegods,towhichourpoetsandreciterswillbeexpectedtoconform——thatGodisnottheauthorofallthings,butofgoodonly。